Thread starter Phil_700; Start date Oct 21, 2020; Phil_700. Powder left in the reloader's powder measure hoppers for extended periods, overnight or several days, should be avoided. My 280 shoots the 140 gr. .280 Remington / 7mm Express Remington - 130 GR (Speer Reloading Manual #14) reloading data with 30 loads. I think after this post I'm going to go and blow the cob webs out of her. The lightweight Mountain rifle (only 6.5 pounds) was made with the best features usually found only in custom rifles. A forth way to make reduced loads is to use a powder that is considered too slow for that particular round. 125 Gr. I have shot some 1" groups at 200 yards but can take the same rounds a week later and not get inside 2" at 100 yards. Remington's auto-loaders and pump-actions couldn’t handle the chamber pressure necessary to meet the velocity target. My intent was to use 123 grain bulk bullets from Midsouth Shooters. 280 Remington 150 gr ELD-X® Precision Hunter® Item #81587 | 20/Box . Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:52 pm Posts: 837 Location: SW Ohio I'm looking for load recommendations for 160 gr Sierra Gamekings for my 280 Rem with IMR-4350, I'm starting with 48.5 gr and another load with 49.5 gr. My grandson wants to shoot my .260 this yrar. Most of the factory loads for the 7mm-08 Remington are built around the 120-, 140- and 150-grain bullets, though there are some heavier loads available, using 160-grain and sometimes heavier bullets. Powders include Alliant, IMR, Hodgdon, Accurate, Vihtavuori, Winchester 300 Rem. Remington was obviously loading the 7mm-08 to much higher chamber pressures. Perhaps JeffPPC will … According to my reloading books the 6.5X55 with a 140 Grn bullet is moving about 2550-2850fps depending on the load, your 280 with a 140 grn is moving 2700-2950 fps again depending on the load. All are more than enough reason for handloaders to add “shrinkage” to their techniques. Managed-Recoil® bullets deliver 2x expansion with over 75% weight retention on shots inside of 50 yards and out to 200 yards. Campfire Guide. Reduced Loads With Accurate 5744 - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: This thread is in response to a mention of reduced loads right here.Terry Wieland wrote an article titled “Against the Stream” in the HandLoading column of the January/February 2006 issue of Petersen’s RifleShooter. If the goal is minimum recoil, the answer is Hodgdon Trail Boss powder. I have the Remington Mountian Rifle. .280 Remington Bullet Weight: 150 gr Case Trim Length: 2.530" S.D. These velocities are seldom achieved in older 22” barreled sporting rifles which tend to produce velocities 140fps below advertised specifications. Along with the 60 percent rule for the 4895s, Hodgdon lists a formula for Trail Boss, a powder designed for really-reduced loads: Fill the case to the base of a seated bullet, then weigh that charge and use it as the maximum load – though pressure will always be less than maximum for the cartridge. Nobody really knows why such excursions occur, but one guess is that only part of the powder charge initially ignites, pushing the bullet into the lands and blocking the bore before the rest of the powder takes off. After my success using Unique and 2400 with my cast loads I am wondering what I can do with them. .270 shooters just smirked and went about their business. and 30-06. I use to use it in Montana for muleys and whitetails on the river bottoms. An example is the 308 Winchester round. He explained that they’d gotten slightly more consistent results with H-4895 in reduced loads, but IMR-4895 also worked with the 60 percent of maximum rule. This affliction began when … Charges of H-4895 and IMR-4895 can be cut to 60 percent of maximum and still produce fine accuracy for reduced loads in cartridges including: (1) .223 Remington, (2) .22-250 Remington, (3) .257 Roberts, (4) .270 Winchester and (5) .338 Winchester Magnum. Today’s velocity freaks wouldn’t even consider such a load, even though it certainly wouldn’t do elk any good at “timber” ranges. The original load—and the load that is still the most popular—was a 130-grain bullet at 3140 fps, though it was later reduced to 3060 fps. Like them, it also works fine as a full-charge powder for cartridges such as the .223 Remington and .308 Winchester, but it does so well with reduced charges that it’s a top choice for making smokeless rounds for black-powder rifles. Then there are old rifles unsuitable for high- pressure handloads, because of design, materials or both; several of mine were made from the 1880s to the 1920s. By clicking the 'I Agree' button, I understand/accept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined below. All this used to be well known among handloaders in the years after World War II. Using bullets from Lead SPGC. This especially applies to spherical powders, because their tiny granules include very resistant coatings to slow the burn rate. Rem 700 LA 280 Rem 3-9x42 SS 25" McGowen 9 twist barrel 52.5 gr H4831sc & 162 AMax @ 2640 fps Rem Brass Fed 210M primer 3.350 COAL 2.125" 3 shot group at 500 yds Savage 111 LA 280 Rem 5-20x50 SS HD 25" CBI 9 twist 54gr H4831sc & 162 Amax @ 2745 fps Rem brass Fed 210M primer 3.390 COAL This load is right around MOA. jacketed bullets I am really not going to use for anything but plinking. These included the powder known today as H-110, designed for the .30 Carbine cartridge; H-335 and BL-C(2), different lots of the same powder; H-4895, actually the IMR-4895 designed by DuPont for the 150-grain M2 Ball load used in the Garand rifle; and H-4831, a powder used in 20mm cannon rounds. One advantage of reduced charges of extruded, single-based powders, like the 4895s, is very predictable pressures and hence velocities. You must agree to the terms below before continuing. 325 Win. I do, however, normally use a dowel or nail for checking the powder level of reduced loads filling less than half the case, to prevent double charges. Short Magnum. Additionally, if you have a load in 280 rem that performs well, I would like to hear about it. and 30-06. Trail Boss was designed for reduced loads, and one of its advantages is increased bulk over traditional reduced-load powder, such as Unique, preventing double charges. Velocity math with double-based powders such as Accurate 5744 isn’t quite as precise, but it gets a handloader in the ballpark. Pistol; Rifle; Cowboy; GR. 17 Remington reduced loads. The MPBR of this load is 245 yards. .280 Remington / 7mm Express Remington (Using 139 GR Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 53 loads. .280 Remington Loads. None of the listed loads use any sort of case “filler,” even with very small charges of powder, because I’ve never found a need for fillers, even with the .416 load. Because 140- and 150-grain bullets are a common weight for deer hunting in a variety of calibers, that would seem a good size for comparison testing against a 270 Win. Partition for everything. Looking for light loads with the J's for 280 Rem. 300 Rem. I’ve developed milder hunting/practice loads for really big rifles. 700. Mar 14, 2017 #3 In my 280 Remington I used IMR4350 with 140 … Hornady 139 flat base bullet with 58.0 grains of H4831 and a Federal LR Gold Medal Match primer. I’m going to choose some of the highest B.C. I find little data for 4759 loads in most of the recent reloading manuals. .223 Remington. This combination was embraced by several gun writers, most notably Outdoor Life’s Jack O’Connor, who championed the cartridge for decades. The Swedes and the Norwegians have killed thousands of moose with the 6.5X55 Mauser (264 cal). Back in the 1970s, when the 7mm Remington Magnum was still considered the new “in-cartridge,” a friend here in Montana killed a pile of deer, black bear and elk years before he bought his first chronograph and discovered the muzzle velocity of his “magnum” handload was slower than 150-grain, .270 Winchester factory loads. Seems to work pretty good. Oct 21, 2020 #1 Anyone care to share their favorite .280 Remington load with Nosler Accubond 140 gr bullets? ALL 100 gr 110 gr 115 gr 120 gr 130 gr 139 gr 140 gr 145 gr 150 gr 154 gr 160 gr 162 gr 168 gr 175 gr. The higher number has the ballistic advantage downrange. ... 280 Remington 125 Rem. 1; 2; 3; Next. O.A.C.L. I find this reduced load in the 22-250 Remington fun to shoot because the rifle report is greatly reduced making it easier on your ears and the felt recoil is appears virtually eliminated. I stock: Green dot, Unique, 2400, and H4895. SPCL SR 4759 30 2445 3.25 280 Remington 140 140 GR. Ultra Magnum. Wt. Posts: 3,349 . Unlike the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington has been struggling almost since its inception in 1957. Using bullets from Lead SPGC. Remington reduced the .280’s working pressures by a large amount and the round debuted with much less performance than planned. Consider 48 percent maximum with cast bullets and 60 to 65 percent maximum with jacketed bullets – yet more evidence that cast bullets produce more pressure. : .284"; NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. .280 Remington - Manufacturer Loading Data. reduced loads for .260 rem. Bugs. ATTENTION: New reloading data … Never substitute any smokeless powder for Black Powder or any Black Powder substitute. The bullets chosen were originally designed for single shot pistols and their lower velocities. Using bullets from Hornady GMX, IB, SST, BTSP or SP. My favorite load for the .280 serves double duty on unruly groundhogs and coyotes and usually gets the call for our whitetails, Speer’s 115-grain hollow point and 58 grains of Hodgdon 4350 in Remington cases and set off with Remington’s large rifle primer. I started using IMR-4895, because it was more commonly available in Montana. H4895 comes to mind as one Sierra used to recommend for reduced loads. Remington introduced the excellent .280 Remington in 1957, but it was poorly promoted, loaded to lower velocities than its full potential and had to compete with the well-established .270 Winchester. Campfire Guide. Post subject: 280 Remington 160 gr load advice. Clute, Texas. 30-06 Spring. Good luck and be careful. Instead, it means “a deviation from a direct, definite or proper course,” as when a rifle blows up. I also am trying to find data for a .223 reduced load (50-55gr varmint bullet @ 2000 fps) for a really quiet coyote load . Mar 2, 2013 1,366 11 St. Louis, MO. 300 Win. The Hodgdon Reloading Data Center has an option to do just this. Remington reduced the .280’s working pressures by a large amount and the round debuted with much less performance than planned. Powder needs to be stored in original containers ONLY, when not in use. The .270 Win is pretty close to the .280 Rem. Shave 10 grains off a 160 gr. Load Data. Magnum. I’ve worked up a bunch over the decades, including small-game loads for slipping into the chamber if a blue grouse or turkey appears during a fall hunt for big game (legal here in Montana). Reduced loads with certain powders can be very dangerous. Go. he has always been a little recoil shy, Is it better to use a slow powder like 4831 or 4350 and load the low side, or faster powder like 4064 or RL-15 and load the low side. [quote=SU35]My results from testing RL 26 in the 280 Rem. Many hunters used to develop reduced loads because they owned relatively few rifles. Use a similar load in both my 7-06 AI's, with results that I am satisfied with. 378 Weatherby Magnum. Was given a pile of reloads for the .280 remington that I pulled apart. (Some IMR powder is now made in Australia to the same specifications. 338 Rem. Its loads also work with jacketed bullets because, contrary to what many handloaders believe, jacketed bullets actually result in less pressure with the same loads, since they don’t seal the bore as completely as softer cast bullets. The overall population of the U.S. is also aging, especially among shooters. 6mm Remington Very Active Member. BTW, I do have healthy respect for the venerable '06. 0.266 Bullet Style: TSX BT Primer: Fed GM210M B.C. Strike Three. IMR 4350 and the 4831's are popular. I load .280 for a Browning A-Bolt and a Rem. I recently obtained some IMR 4759 powder for use in reduced loads and other uses where it is applicable. Great care has been given by Hornady engineers to develop superior, match­-accurate hunting loads that allow the ELD­-X ® bullet to achieve its maximum ballistic potential. Congrats on such a good load. 416 Rigby . Paul . They still like to shoot and handload, but after decades of owning the perfect rifle for every purpose, they found some rifles got used far more than others. IMHO its about shot placement. FJIM. Looking for light loads with the J's for 280 Rem. The perfect-cartridge trend continues today, but social changes have revived reduced handloads, including Obama’s election and reelection. I have a Rem Mod 700 in 17 Rem and get VERY spotty results, accuracy wise. 470 Nitro Express. JD338 … Remington introduced the excellent .280 Remington in 1957, but it was poorly promoted, loaded to lower velocities than its full potential and had to compete with the well-established .270 Winchester. Mar 27, 2011 949 1 Western Montana. Many companies no longer test certain powders in certain cartridges, because so many customers want more velocity, the reason some handloaders never throw away older loading manuals, even with plenty of “free” data available on the Internet. 340 Weatherby Magnum. I use 160 gr Partitions for elk, but I've always thought about just using the 150 gr. Even moderate cartridges work fine with starting loads, especially older rounds with mild pressure limits as set by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute (SAAMI). Notable post-war wildcats such as the . Other benefits are longer barrel life, which is perfect for me when plinking. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. While younger shooters may find it unbelievable, many retired shooters eventually decide it’s possible to own too many rifles, so they sell some, spending the money on other stuff, including visits to distant grandchildren. Velocity starting in the 2200 fps range will allow a 200 yd load, considering the scope being set at 3.5 inches high at 100 yds. PATENT PENDING . I have had the best results with Reloder 22 and IMR 4831. 280 Rem. My experience with loads and pressure signs indicates that published max 280 loads may be conservative. I have only shot 140 and 150 grain … Back then, most sources listed what many twenty-first-century handloaders would consider stupidly inadequate velocities, because companies listed every suitable powder. Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:57 pm . My favorite among these is probably Alliant Red Dot, partly because it’s also versatile for 12-gauge reloading and partly because of an article by C.E. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity … Enter unfortunate event number two. Regards, Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk . 280 AI with Hornady 162ELD-X load data? Some powders popular for really- reduced handloads are primarily meant for handgun and shotgun cartridges but work well at handgun/shotgun pressures in rifle cartridges. .223 Remington. I wanted to get an idea of each bullet weight for RL 26 Ruger No 1-A 22" barrel Norma brass Rem primer Temp 60 degrees Pro Chrono set up at 10' from muzzle All bullets were .005 off the lands I fired two shots for each bullet weight. After considerable experimentation, Harris found 13.0 grains of Red Dot worked well in any cartridge above .35 Remington capacity when using cast or jacketed bullets of “normal” weight. For practice, John once developed a reduced .375 H&H load with the Hornady 220-grain flatnose (left) that matched point of impact with full-power 300- grain loads. What powder is working best for those who load .280 REM? My current favorite loads are with 140 gr Barnes TSXs and 160 gr Nosler Partitions. This bullet does well on antelope sized deer. Mar 14, 2017 #2 I use R19 with 140gr Nosler Partitions. Hodgdon Powder Company developed the following reduced loads for use on deer and similarly sized game animals. 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