At least, not for very long. With a probable cow elk hunt on the horizon what bullets should be my first choice. .280 Remington said: What he said. Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:17 am . I used: Always enjoy those pictures, David. Regards, Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk . I've killed elk with both the .284 Win and the 7mm-08 Rem. So although this seems very odd, Remington actually introduced the .280 Remington in their Model 740 semiautomatic, following with … Nosler offers two Custom and two Trophy Grade loads for the .280 AI but that’s about the extent of factory-loaded options. Partition, Accubond, or E-tip would all work very well. I haven't tried a 140 grain bullet on moose in either, but Win 150 grain factory loads were fine in the 284, as were 160 grain Nosler handloads in the 7x57. Shooting a Remington 7600 in this caliber has been a pleasure and super performer in the thick hardwoods as well as reaching out across a cut corn field. However, it was introduced in a different time, when the ascendancy of the bolt action wasn’t as clear as it is today. Lots of people use the 150 gr bullet in the 06, and there is little difference between the two cartridges. It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it generally swear by it. Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 280 Remington Rifle Rounds. I stick with 140s in the 280. In the article he includes some reloading data and ballistic results for several calibers, including the .280 Remington. I'm partial to the long actions. Stick with lead. I keep bouncing between the 280 Remington and the 280 AI. Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:27 am Posts: 1625 You should have no problems with the 150PT. I also used the 140 PT in a 6.5 x 55 Swede on a cow elk at 370 years ago, … I used 140 gr. You're good to go with a140 gr AB or 150 PT, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt elk or moose with my 280 using a 150 gr PT! A better choice for elk hunting than Remington’s big 7mm is tough to find. I’ve also had superb results with Berger’s 168-grain VLD Hunting. I shot nothing but 140 gr. My Sierra manual shows 51.8 Gr of H-380 to be the max with a 150 gr bullet and my old … Also, while the heaviest bullet offered in factory ammo is 160 grains, hand loaders can select 7mm bullets up to 175 grains. If you have a good load with the 150 grain Partition, you're golden. list velocities of 2,990 fps while Nosler’s 140-grain Accubond Ackley Improved loads get you 3,150 fps. An elk shot by a client at 90 yards with a .270 reared up and toppled backward, spearing the earth with its great antlers to lie dead, belly-up. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:59 am Posts: 4438 Lots of people use the 150 gr bullet in the 06, and there is little difference between the two cartridges. For elk, I would recommend the 160 grain bullet.....for mule deer, you … I sold my .280 and now I have a .280 AI and shot my elk last year with one shot at 450 yards with a 140 gr. Joined Mar 2, 2001 Messages 395 Location ID - Boundary County. Nosler Partition. The 280 is an excellent round. Mar 27, 2011 949 1 Western Montana. If you want to stick with Hornady, their Interbond would be the way to go. Calibers available are 260 Remington, 270 Win., 280 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, and 30-06. I recently picked up a Winchester Model 70 FWT chambered in 280 Remington with a 22" barrel and I'm looking to develop some deer and elk loads. Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:11 pm . 280 Remington As Goldilocks. What, in your opinion would be the optimum bullet weight for the 280 as a mule deer/elk thumper? Remington .280 factory loads are currently offered with three different 140 grain spitzer bullets, all with a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps and a muzzle energy of 2,797 ft. lb. Remington and Federal both load premium bullets in … Per the Nosler reloading manual, a 140 grain bullet can achieve over 3100 fps and a 150 grain, almost 3000. I would stay with the 150 gr PT. I stick with the slower powders such as Hodgdon 4831 and Reloder 22. For example, all three of Federal Premium’s 140-grain loads for the .280 Rem. Then, in 2019, Hornady introduced a 162-grain ELD-X bullet loaded in the.280 AI, adding it to the excellent Precision Hunter line of ammunition. I'm comfortable on cow elk with a 140 grain Partition or a 140 grain AccuBond out of my .280. The 280 Remington could be the Goldilocks of standard-length action hunting rounds. My buddy has an Encore Pro Hunter in .280 and we're having issues getting a load that shoots well in it. Headed on my first plains game hunt in May. get a .280 people take elk with .270 and .30-06 all the time do you handload? 150gr Nosler Part and the 280 Rem seem to be a perfect match. Best 280 Ammo For Elk Montana Elk Hunting: 30-06, 270, 280 – The 30-06 Springfield, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington are the Timex watch of elk cartridges. I’ve had very good luck with Reloder 25 and IMR 7828 as well. I think the 280 and 7x57 with 175 gr. Does anyone have any pet loads for the .280 Remington? My primary rifle for all large game hunting is a 30-338 wildcat and my secondary or backup rifle is a .280 Remington. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. Which is better? Never would I say the 7mag was more effective or killed em more dead. Remington currently produce four loads for the.280 including, the 140 grain Core-Lokt at an advertised 3000fps, the 140 grain Accutip at 3000fps, the 150 grain Core-Lokt at 2890fps and the 165 grain Core-Lokt round nose bullet at 2820fps. I would think the heavier bullets and added velocity would shade the 280 in less than ideal conditions. I was wondering if anyone had any pet loads for the 280 Rem. Accubond had not been developed yet. So as we can see the .280 is quite capable of doing the job. That's only because the 140 gr. "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say … Headed on my first plains game hunt in May. 57.0 grs MAX and well under MOA. After the Great War, cupro-nickel, of 60 percent copper and 40 percent nickel, became the jacket of choice. The 280 Rem is one of my favorites. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. Also known as the .280 Ackley Improved or the .280 Remington Ackley Improved, the .280 AI is basically a .280 Remington case (itself a .30-06 Springfield case necked down to 7mm/.284") that's been blown out to increase the powder capacity. Use 160 grain Partitions. 0.310 Bullet Style: TSX FB Primer: Fed GM210M B.C. I had a Remington 700 MTN Rifle in 280 Remington and the only bullet I used for elk, deer, antelope, and coyotes was a 140 gr. You should consider a heavier stronger bullet though. Used the 160 PT in my previous 280 on whitetail, mule deer, elk and moose. My thought on them is you won't have enough muzzle energy before they stop opening on elk sized game. Looking for any input from the seasoned veterans if this is enough gun for like a Kudu,Gemsbok, Waterbuck. Woodleighs or Noslers is a credible elk rifle depending on where and how you hunt..If you hunt the swamps, black timber where all shots are going away then the big bores like the 338, 9.3 and 375 are much better..If you hunt the sage brush, sidehills, you can't beat a 7x57, 270, 280 or 30-06 or thier ilk... Have a buddy that has a ton of rifles but they are all chambered in 280. Ron is right – there’s not a lot of difference. This is not a “through the shoulder” load; it is so accurate in my .280 I have no problem slipping it between the ribs on a deer or, if the … Factory data has it exiting the muzzle at 2,850 fps, just 90 fps slower than the same bullet in Hornady’s 7mm Remington Magnum ammo. The .280 Remington Cartridge The .280 was introduced by Remington in 1957. Neither seemed to me ideal for elk, though Wyoming outfitter Les Bowman and the Remington company promoted the round masterfully. One is a pointed Core-Lokt, one is a Nosler ballistic tip, and the third is a boat-tail spitzer bullet. Looking for loads for a 280 Remington. no worries. Ackley intended. So here’s the problem: You’ve asked for data on an exact bullet, and not given an exact bullet. Magnum primers work well with these propellants. The same goes for the 145gr .270 Winchester vs the 150gr .280 Remington load. Remington and Federal both load premium bullets in … The 280 Remington is a fine shooter with almost all bullet weights. Jul 15, 2015 #10 1. They “take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. The .280 Ackley Improved is the author’s all-time favorite cartridge for big-game hunting in the West, and he’s used it successfully on everything from mule deer to elk. In both cases, the .270 Winchester has a slightly flatter trajectory, but the .280 Remington has a tiny bit more kinetic energy at all ranges (about 5-10% at 500 yards). The 280 is the ballistic twin of the 270 Win and we all know its record on elk.........I've even killed moose with it and it works just fine. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. My 280 Remington Mountain rifle is light and recoil actually feels less than my little model 7 Rem carbine in 308 Win and they weigh about the same. There are also many more factory loads available for the .270 Winchester over the .280 Remington at a lower price point due to the .270's much greater popularity. It’s a great cartridge saddled with an unfortunate legacy. And Mule deer. It has no data for the 280 Rem. 270 vs 280 Remington vs 280 Ackley Improved vs 7mm Rem Mag: History. Gilding metal (90 percent copper, 10 percent zinc) was first thought too soft for the friction generated by 150-grain bullets in .30-06 service ammunition. My buddy doesn't think so. .280 vs .30-06 [ edit ] The .280 Remington is capable of developing energy nearly equal to the .30-06 Springfield , but with lighter bullets having a better ballistic coefficient . It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. Updated: May 10, 2019. The .280 is fine. Jan 26, 2012 #2 S. Shortmagman Well-Known Member. I get leery of Barnes in those small calibers, especially at low MV. It worked very well and she only went about 30 feet. I am new to reloading so I'm picking up materials as I go along. As is the case with many other cartridges developed in the United States, the story of the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington, the .280 Ackley Improved, and the 7mm Remington Magnum starts with the .30-06 Springfield. The greater energy and higher ballistic coefficient of heavier .284″ bullets give the .280 Remington a slight ballistic advantage over the .270 Winchester. I want some advice please. To fully-realize the versatility of this cartridge, you’ll either need to handload or be willing to purchase custom loaded ammunition. You would shoot the bull elk that was closest, “looked bigger,” had the best shot at, or had the best angle for a good shot. It’s at its best with 140- to 175-grain projectiles. you can load some awsome rounds with the .280 people need to remember that elk were hunted to near extinction with the .30-30. the .280 is a good elk gun as long as you take the time to practice, practice shot placement , AND GET TO KNOW THE RIFLE. It can be loaded with everything from 100-grain Sierra Hollow Points to 195-grain Berger Elite Hunters. I know the 150gr partition is a strong candidate. Take your pick. You can’t beat the .270 Winchester or the .280 Remington. W. Work2hunt Veteran member. Ted, I grew up in S.W. Here's why. .280 Remington Bullet Weight: 175 gr Case Trim Length: 2.530" S.D. I have killed a lot of pronghorn and deer with this cartridge, but only three head of elk; however, all three were one shot kills using the 160 Sierra Gameking at about 2850 fps. By Joseph von Benedikt. Have a buddy that has a ton of rifles but they are all chambered in 280. You’ve also not provided an estimated range or size of elk. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. My most recent 8 Pointer didnt know the difference. Its flat arc and relatively light recoil appealed to hunters. The .280 Rem is an excellent choice and, if I might add, the .280 Ackley Improved offers the slight improvement that P.O. I would try both of these and hunt with … This variety makes it … Post subject: Re: Cow elk load for 280 Remington. Will I be able to get 3000+ with 140 Accubonds because that is the bullet I am wanting to use Thanks Ted . I took a little bull last fall with the 160 AB in my 7 mag and it performed "perfectly". All three were lung shot, and all were dead within 25 yards or so of where they were hit. My go to now is a 280AI which takes care of bussiness nicely. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests, Nosler Inc  |  Privacy  Use  Order Processing. Bowman favored the 150-grain bullet, observing it killed more quickly than the factory’s 175. Log In Register. In my old Remington 725 .280 Remington, 54.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a 160 grains Nosler Partition bullet, chrono'd at 2882 FPS, works just fine on elk. As standard cartridges go, the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. My own experience is pretty much in line with the favorable comments regarding the .280 and elk. Part of his pitch for Remington’s big 7 was that it didn’t belt you like a .300 Magnum. I have hunted a few different 280s for elk over the years along with one or two elk taken with a 7mag. Seems to me like I should be able to load it with as much Hodgdon H-380 as my 30-06 with a 150 Sierra BTSP. For propellants, RL19 or 4350 will usually give very good results. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. The .280 served you well. 54.0 grs shoots .400" at 100 yds and is a dandy elk … The Ideal Deer (and Occasional Elk) Cartridge. The .280 Remington deserves more respect. If you are a handloader though, the choice is a no-brainer. Notable post-war wildcats such as the . Never seen one of those before. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. Handgun Ammo Rifle Ammo 17 Hornet Ammo 17 Rem Fireball Ammo 17 Remington Ammo 204 Ruger Ammo 218 Winchester Bee … Seems to me like I should be able to load it with as much Hodgdon H-380 as my 30-06 with a 150 Sierra BTSP. 6.8 Remington SPC Load Data; 27 Nosler Load Data; 270 Winchester Load Data; 270 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data; 270 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Mauser (7×57) Load Data; 7mm-08 Remington Load Data; 284 Winchester Load Data; 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data What, in your opinion would be the optimum bullet weight for the 280 as a mule deer/elk thumper? 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